I'm late in replying. Did you get your Kings yet? I have a pair I can sell you. If you have no pigeons, you'll want to get a pair of "foster parents" as well (feeder pigeons to raise King babies). I can give you a pair of those with the shipment if you buy the Kings. I can also offer a discount if you join the AKC. You can write back using my email. See the For Sale section.