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 Subject: RE: Acts 13 and the Body-part 2
 
Author: Mike Holt
Date:   8/22/2003 6:43 pm CDT
CLEMENS: ”You give this verse showing that the circumcision had some question about Paul's ministry. But you never gave the context. Here it is...

”2 Peter 3:15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR POSTING THE CONTEXT. IT PROVES MY POINT. PAUL DID WRITE TO THE CIRCUMCISION DIDN'T HE? THEY WERE DEFINITELY A PART OF THE KINGDOM PROGRAM FOR ISRAEL. AGAIN, LET'S START WITH THE VERY BASICS AND TAKE IT FROM THE TOP AGAIN. PAUL DID WRITE TO THE CIRCUMCISION FOR THEIR OWN PROGRAM. HE OBVIOUSLY WAS NOT WRITING THE MYSTERY TO CLARIFY IT FOR HIM, NOW DID HE?

CLEMENS: Please check your dictionary when you have the time to do so. “Salutations” come at the beginning of a letter, whereas “valedictions” come at the end of a letter. Paul did not say, “The salutations and valedictions of Paul with mine own hand, which is the token in every epistle: so I write.”

AGAIN, HERE WE COME TO THE BASIC ROOT OF THE MATTER. I DON'T FOLLOW "JUST" A DICTIONARY, I FOLLOW PAUL! PAUL DEFINED WHERE TO FIND HIS SALUTATION RIGHT IN THE CONTEXT! FYI, ALL SALUTATION MEANS IS A WORD OF GREETING. YES, I HAVE LOOKED IT UP BEFORE. *SIGH* GET THIS: IN OTHER LANGUAGES WHEN YOU SPEAK TO SOMEONE YOU OFTEN GIVE A SALUTATION WHEN YOU MEET A PERSON AND WHEN YOU LEAVE. THAT IS HOW THEY DO IT IN OTHER COUNTRIES...LIKE THE ONES THAT PAUL WROTE TO! GREECE DOES IT FOR A FACT! I KNOW BECAUSE I AM HALF GREEK-I UNDERSTAND THE MINDSET AND THE CULTURE. IF IT WERE JUST AT THE BEGINNING OF AN EPISTLE, THEN WHY IN THE WORLD DOES HE MENTION IT IN THE END AS A CLOSING REMARK? OH SURE, HE PUTS A SALUTATION IN THE BEGINNING, BUT THE ONE THAT HE ALWAYS SIGNED WAS IN THE END! THE ONLY WAY THAT A PERSON COULD MISS IT IS IF THEY HAD ULTERIOR MOTIVES.

1 Corinthians 16:21 The salutation of me Paul with mine own hand.

Colossians 4:18 The salutation by the hand of me Paul. Remember my bonds. Grace be with you. Amen. <<Written from Rome to Colossians by Tychicus and Onesimus.>>

2 Thessalonians 3:17-18 The salutation of Paul with mine own hand, which is the token in every epistle: so I write. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen. <<The second epistle to the Thessalonians was written from Athens.>>

NOT ONLY DO I UNDERSTAND SIMPLE ENGLISH, BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THE HIDDEN AGENDA THAT YOU HAVE. YOU COME ONTO OUR WEBSITE AND START OFF BY TRYING TO SWAY US WITH YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT RIGHT DIVISION, WHICH WE TOLERATED, AND NOW YOU ESCALATE IT TO THIS. MAN, THAT WAS PRETTY BAD! YOUR CHARACTER MAKES IT SO THAT THIS WILL BE THE LAST LETTER OF REFUTE THAT I WILL BOTHER WITH. CORRECT, HEBREWS DOES NOT START OFF WITH "PAUL". SO WHAT?!!?!??! SHOW US THE CARDINAL RULE THAT SAYS THAT IT HAS TO! IS THIS ANOTHER ONE OF PAUL'S PROGRESSIVE REVELATIONS THAT YOU JUST CAN'T SEEM TO FIND? LOL IT IS FUNNY HOW THE KING JAMES TRANSLATORS COULD FIND THIS OUT, BUT YOU WON'T GIVE IT CREDIT. PAUL'S EPISTLES FALL INTO 2 PERFECT SETS OF 7.

PAUL GOT NOTHING IN ARABIA THAT SEPERATED HIM FROM HIS MOTHER'S WOMB. NOTHING! HE WAS SEPERATED FROM HIS MOTHER'S WOMB WHEN HE WAS BORN. PAUL SAW GOD AS THE ONE RESPONSIBLE FOR HIS LIFE IN THIS WORLD, AND GOD WAS THE ONE THAT CALLED HIM BY HIS GRACE. STOP READING INTO THE TEXT.

CLEMENS: 2.) Also please pinpoint precisely what chapter(s) and verse(s) in the book of Acts correspond to the same chronological point in history with Paul there in Arabia, in Galatians 1:17?
I AM NOT GOING TO WASTE MY TIME ON THIS FOR YOU. YOU HAVE ENOUGH TRUTH TO COME AROUND AND REPENT. I DO KNOW IT, BUT I WON'T GIVE IT.

CLEMENS: 3.) As far as that meeting described in Galatians 2, please tell me if you think that corresponds with a meeting between those two in Acts 15, or Acts 11, or elsewhere according to your study?

NO, I AM NOT GOING TO TELL YOU. AGAIN, YOU HAVE ENOUGH TRUTH PRESENTED BY ME. YOU JUST NEED TO BELIEVE THE WORD OF GOD AS IT STANDS.
YOUR ANSWERS ARE ONLY SHOWING YOUR UNBELIEF.
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